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My great uncle, Lothar (pronounced "Lotah") Hain, in his SS uniform, 1944. He was 17 at the time, and as I hear it, he lied about his age in order to join the Schutzstaffel.

Having nazis in my family is no source of pride for me, and I am certainly NOT a sympathizer. This guy also caused no end of trouble for the rest of the family. My aunt Debbie (his niece) was almost not allowed to marry her first husband because of Lothar's having been in the SS. To quote a wikipedia article, "The SS was responsible for the vast majority of war crimes perpetrated under the Nazi regime, including the Holocaust."

I remember meeting Lothar when I was very young, at a German restaurant somewhere in the Western US (it was either California, Arizona or Washington). At the time, he seemed so.... I don't know. It's just a weird feeling to know that as a small child I was climbing on a hardcore nazi. He just seemed like a regular ol' German guy.

See the Death's Head on his hat?


EDIT: Children. I am going to take this down if you can't play nicely.
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zoommerfish Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Just shut down comments if it goes to far m8.
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nicholasweed Featured By Owner Edited Mar 1, 2018
The Death Head is used by the SS to make them look like more elite troops.  Mounted Lancer troops in the 19th Century would use the Totenkopf.  Both the British and German Lancers used the skull and cross bones.  It was used on WW1 German Tanks as well.  Your uncle is the rank of Private.  The SS was declared a Criminal Origination at the end of WW2.  SS troops had to spend more time in P.O.W. camps than regular German Army troops.
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Heromachinist Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2017
Did he murder any innocents? God, that would be hard for me to deal with.
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dredwardgumball115 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
great. I'm related to adolf Hitler (I'm serious). my great grandmother was his cousin
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Heromachinist Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2017
And I'm the Pharaoh.
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dredwardgumball115 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
I'm serious
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Heromachinist Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2017
hahaha. Doubtful, but if so maybe don't broadcast it.
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zoommerfish Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Why would it matter? The son is not accountable for the grievances of his father, or in this case, the relative is not accountable for the crimes of his distant dictator great grand-uncle.
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DaMummyFox123 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's pretty wild man, my great uncle also served under the Nazi flag when he was drafted at the age of 20 in 1940, he was trained in Germany and sent to North Africa under the Afrika Korps. He fought in several battles including the Siege Of Tobruk and later On the Battle Of Gazala before he surrendered to the Allies in 1943.He was later shipped to America as a POW and served his time here till the war's end at Camp Clinton. After that he started his new life and was acquitted of all crimes during his time in Germany.
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YourCrazyNazi Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
wow awsome you had a nazi uncle 
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sabrielanddestial Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
Cool picture!
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Roccodog1 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016
If he was part of the Waffen SS then its likely he didn't participate in any thing that the SSTV was doing. Lot's of people were in the SS, just imagine them as a Shocktrooper, the elite troops of the Army.
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HERBERT45 Featured By Owner Edited Jun 21, 2016
The "Death's Head" emblem has a history going back to Frederick I believe.  It symbolized the soldier wearing it that he will fight to the death for his king and country if ordered to do so (and they did).

Open up a few history books on the subject and if your uncle wasn't personally charged with war crimes I would cut him some slack.
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thepoormansbutter Featured By Owner May 27, 2016
 He doesn't look like a hard core Nazi to me. Don't be so quick to judge your own family, at the time the S.S was seen as a very good organization in the eyes of most Germans, in the same situation, you may have joined too. Plus he was only 17.
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Huntario818 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2016
My Jaja (Polish grandpa) was stationed in Germany following the war. I too knew him only as a boy; he smoked himself to death. I really want to learn more about him. All the more I do know is he loved Spanish salsa music
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winniethefoo Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
disregarding connotations of the SS, that is a great uniform Heart 
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DasFurredReich Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2015
That is awesome!!! 
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DasFurredReich Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2015
Very nice picture! 
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The SS was split up into many organizations. The SS-TV ran the camps, and your great uncle joined the Waffen-SS. While they committed crimes also, most notably the execution of POWs, they were not as sinister as the SS-TV. Like the Wehrmacht, most of them were just men serving their country, many of them drafted like the other nations including the allies.
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musicalfart Featured By Owner May 3, 2015  Student Writer
I agree with kagomemorino. Although the Nazis did some terrible things, not all of them were horrible people. Yes, the vast majority of them were assholes, but not all of them. I think it was Oscar Schindler (I think I spelled it right) who was an SS officer who employed Jews at his factories, then sent them to unoccupied territory for their own safety. By no means do I respect Nazism, but they did do SOME good things before shit hit the fan. I myself have a few ex Nazis in the family, and they were all good people. It's not their fault for what happened. No one person is responsible for what happened. (Well, Hitler was)
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's the funny part, people pretend that Hitler alone did all of this when in reality Germany was following him, many willingly and others by force.
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musicalfart Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Student Writer
True, but he was the backbone.
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hitler didn't really oversee the Holocaust, he never even visited a camp. Heydrich and Himmler kept the camps running, since Hitler was too busy with the war.
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musicalfart Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Student Writer
But still, he was the backbone of the Nazi party as a whole.
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The nazi party didn't have the power it did before the purge, and Hitler stopped wearing nazi party uniforms, just the badge.
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musicalfart Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Student Writer
Yep
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Mhmm.
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kagomemorino Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
People have to remember at the time Hittler was promising things and so forth. So at the time it was a great honor to serve just like any other countrys military. So respect is given on my end. No I don't agree in what happens. I think its the sickest thing ever! That said. People make mistakes and learn from them. Fear is a very powerful influence. Please don't take down this photo. People need to realize they were normal kids who just wanted to protect others but were lead by the wrong person. You have a part of history in your family and a chance to truly understand what a regular kid was feeling back then. Accept and try to understand.
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TimberCheddaroni Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014
My grandfather was an Ally, and was at the liberation of Bergen Belsen.

Having said that, I do not hold any anger to the children and family of those who were part of the Nazi party. Times were different - and in some cases it was join or be killed.

Thank you for sharing a piece of history, and please don't take it down because some people are ignorant.
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Vengefulpadre Featured By Owner May 15, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
my uncle Heinrich was in the Afrika corps, HE surrendered to his brother in laws brigade when he got transferred to Italy and got surrounded. funny story.
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What's the funny part?
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zeonchar Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013
Nice photo. Thanks for sharing!
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Capnchan Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2013
Does anyone else notice that this is an SS uniform from around 1933-36??? When the SA and SS had just began. For instance this uniform was seen during the infamous night of book burning, or from footage of Hitler's inauguration as chancellor in 1933. Not 1944, unless they spared him an old uniform toward the end of the war to save on costs. As far as my knowledge goes no SS solider ever wore that particular uniform in combat, i.e. from 1939 and onward... I could be wrong though, like I said, he could have been drafted much later into the war and given an old uniform. However, there seems to be some more information you may want to dig up.
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This uniform is pattern 1942.
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Capnchan Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2015
Please provide source, otherwise I stand by my well researched original statement. In which I was pretty accommodating to the fact these uniforms were given to older men in rural towns as a last line of defense so it is plausible. Additionally, the picture itself seems to have been taken from an older model than '44. But I would genuinely like to know more and be corrected as necessary ^^
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't know where in the world you got your 1933-1936 concept. The German army didn't start to really take shape until 1935 and they wore a tunic with a green collar then. Look up the M42 german uniform, google it.
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Capnchan Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2015
I think I explained myself quite clearly. What you have there, a M42, is a Wermarcht uniform. Worn by the common solider and officer, and were first introduced  in 1935 for official military use and then standard from 1938-1941 onward. The uniform worn in this pic predates 1935, simply watch the infamous book burning off 1933 when Goebbles give his speech... They were notoriously known as the brown shirts, Hitler's street army at the time and well organized. 
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So how can you explain that a model 1942 uniform came out in 1935?
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Capnchan Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2015
Ar-are you even serious right now?  IF you want to be super technical, he designed the grey tunic with strap band in 1934 and only made it public 1935, the rest I explained... 
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
First of all all of the field tunics were worn by enlisted men and NCO's, probably most of the officers wore private purchase uniforms. If not, officer M36's. The Wehrmacht was not just the army, but the Army, Navy, and Air Force. The SS was separate, and had all of their stuff custom made. SS panzer uniforms were a different cut than army ones, and the materials changed too. Now the guy above is not a panzer man, so before you jump all over that I'll say that right now.

There were a few early uniforms, then the M36, the M40, the M41, the M42, the M43, and the M44 tunics. None of them replaced the another and the number after the M is what year it first appeared. The man above is not a brown shirt, his uniform in color would be greenish gray. Feldgrau. You must be confusing this man with the Allgemeine-SS before the war or something...which I still don't see your balsa wood logic...totally false.
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Nagneto Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
That's an important piece of history you got there. Please don't ever take it down.
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Nyenor-401 Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2013
SS = elite of nation
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SovietNickie Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013  Student Writer
Handsome man, on each side of my family both my grandfathers fought in WWII. One was a soldier in the Red Army, the other was a US sailor.
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EarthsShadow Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
Interesting piece of history. Thank you for sharing. :)
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StripeyBoosh Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
I for some reason do hold sympathy in some respects. Of course, I don't justify the actions of the Schutzstaffel. However it seemed many German young men were raised believing that serving in the military was a great honor. If you were told doing such things for your country was of the greatest honor--and good--would you not have done the same? Maybe not. But the thought does not allow me to hate these young men. In fact, I find it very sad. This photograph is very special. I hope that your family preserves it as a piece of history.
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Kallios Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2013
You've said everything I want to say, and I applaud you for it.
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HeavyMetalVictorian Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
He's awfully dashing.
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Ma110ry Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2012
Wow i wish a have a nazi as a great grandfather or something. Im part german, maybe... i have one. Who knows who knows
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Grand-Lobster-King Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you had family in Germany at the time, chances are they got drafted, young or old, as long as they were male.
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